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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014, 09:40 
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I see you have listed the X60 in the tracking table, any chance for the X61(Skånetrafiken) X62(Norrtåg) to make it into the set? I know they are pretty much the same train with different paint schemes.


As SlemFreak mentioned I plan to do some commuter trains such as the X60 running for SL as well as X61 running for both Västtrafik and Skånetrafiken. In fact, I plan to do also the X1, X10 and X11 along with X12 in different liveries so most of these will be covered. As for Norrtåg and the X62, tricky color but I'll keep it open...

I'll look into the tracking table and make it more clear separating engines from EMU's and DMU's and also adding passenger coaches and freight cars. I have a busy schedule this week so I'll basically focus on trying to complete the Dm2 and Dm3, and I also need to fix some issue with the T46...

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Excellent work. Per the question: The light brown.


Thanks! :)

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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014, 13:45 
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Updated the first post with a more clear tracking table... Additional tracking tables for passenger coaches and freight cars to be added tomorrow... :)

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Added tracking table for passenger coaches in the first post, as well as "showrooms" for Hector Rail, CargoNet, MTR Express and Railcare...

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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2014, 15:01 
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Can't wait for the release of this wonderful set, so I can start playing OpenTTD again.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2014, 15:25 
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That makes three of us... ;)

But as mentioned I'm busy with work from now on and almost the entire november, so I can only spend time on this project a few hours each day... But when december approaches we're talking waay more time... Christmas time... :P

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I wish I knew how to code so I could help you put together your work. All I can do now is give you some suggestions on possible trains, liveries, wagons etc that I think would fit into the set. (If you want my input)

If you decide to draw the TMY/TMX the red IBAB livery (Inlandsbanan) would be nice to see, as well as the IBAB Y1


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On my way to work, so I'll respond tomorrow morning... :)

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pixar wrote:
I wish I knew how to code so I could help you put together your work. All I can do now is give you some suggestions on possible trains, liveries, wagons etc that I think would fit into the set. (If you want my input)


Actually, as mentioned previously, I already have a professional coder for INFRA Trains... :)

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If you decide to draw the TMY/TMX the red IBAB livery (Inlandsbanan) would be nice to see, as well as the IBAB Y1


I'll see what can be done. I won't make any promises though as I already have taken upon myself to include quite a number of various units that should be enough to any Swedish rail enthusiast out there... :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: 28 Oct 2014, 22:10 
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Had a difficult time trying to determine the correct sizes depending on views, (i.e. horizontal, / & \, and so on...), and since this is TTDLX this doesn't always make any sense... And while trying different proportions, MB pointed me to Pikka's post about TTDLX perspectives - which makes perfect sense... :W

And with this in mind I've spent these last few days updating some of my work, one of them the IORE - only to realize that it would simply be better to redraw it completely... And so I did! :)

The image below shows three different IORE's for the sake of comparison, the first from AndersI's set, the second being my first version of it, and the third and last my new and final version...

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PostPosted: 29 Oct 2014, 05:32 
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The best so far. :mrgreen:


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Improved it a bit further and added the new horizontal and vertical views...

I'm quite happy with it... :)

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PostPosted: 29 Oct 2014, 14:30 
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Had a second thought about the side view length of the IORE compared to the hoizontal view, and decided to add some additional examples for further thoughts...

The IORE in real life is 22.9 m long, (one engine), making it a total of nearly 46 m when connected two and two... Below are two additional examples of the IORE using the current 26px length for the side view as a base, one extended to 28px and the third to 30px...

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PostPosted: 29 Oct 2014, 19:04 
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Amazing work as always, and yes the IORE is extremely long when coupled togheter (which it always is). Both the 28 and the 30px versions looks very good. But mabye the the 28px version fits better with the scale of the game, just my thoughts.

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I don't know you have decided/started working on any freight wagons for the IORE (and other ore types) I'm going to post some data i found on some wagons if you are in interested in it.

LKAB:
2006 F050 (FAMMOORR 050) Image
2005 Uadk Link2
1970 Uad/Uadp Just some basic info
1950 Mas 50 Didn't find much on this one just some basic specifications in this article

Mabye it would be cool to include TAIMN 091 used by Boliden Mining to carry copper ore, some info on it here and a few images
FAMMRR121 used by Northland Resources to carry iron ore concentrate (not the "pellets" that LKAB produce) image


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PostPosted: 30 Oct 2014, 11:07 
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Thanks! :) I've already settled with the 28px version as I think it works best in comparison! As for freight cars I'll do them last once all engines, EMU's, DMU's and passenger coaches are done. Reason be is that freight cars requires more work due to the loading stages and - of course - the goods itself...

That said I have already been working on some freight cars, but I'll leave the full scale process til later... :)

And thanks for posting those links. In contrast to engines and coaches there are no similar pages for freight cars - at least not that I can find when searching - so any link posted is helpful in that matter!

The Uadk by the way seems very much like an ordinary T44... ? I already have three versions of T44 included, so I'm not sure I want to use yet another vehicle ID for that one... But we'll see... :P

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The Uadk by the way seems very much like an ordinary T44... ? I already have three versions of T44 included, so I'm not sure I want to use yet another vehicle ID for that one... But we'll see... :P


It's actually the iron ore wagon that's the Uadk (if you scroll down there are some pictures + technical data) the locomotive in the picture is just another T44 yes.


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PostPosted: 30 Oct 2014, 14:56 
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Ah, well of course... I checked it too fast I guess... the littera should have given a clue I suppose... :oops:

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28px,30px, that's how I love them. Thanks SAC!


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athanasios wrote:
28px,30px, that's how I love them. Thanks SAC!


Yeah, quite nice, aren't they... :)

Completed all views and updated, what was needed to update, the following units for SJ and LKAB;

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The tracking table in the first post updated accordingly... :)

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Good work once again SAC.

I happen to find out that "Norrbottens Järnvägsmuseum" have many old wagons in their possession. You can see pictures on most of them here, might be useful later on when you get there with your work!


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Thanks for the link! Some old stuff there I haven't seen before... :P

Completed SJ's engines Da and Ma;

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Updated the tracking table accordingly... :)

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