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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2014, 18:37 
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Also, as progress continues with INFRA Trains I'm looking for a few people interested in testing out the set whenever my excellent coder has completed test versions of it! Interested, post a note here! :)


i'm up for it!


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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2014, 21:41 
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I've noted the interest... :P

Now, moving on, wasn't sure if I should give this one a go, TGOJ's Yoa104, (later SJ X20), basically due to its tricky colour and the lack of alternatives... But here's at least a test to comment on... Should I continue?

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Please note that it's far from completed. This is just a quick go at it...

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2014, 23:06 
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I've noted the interest... :P


I hope, you have noted my interest per PM in TT-Forums, too.

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2014, 23:17 
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Nope, I haven't - but since you were kind enough to give me a hands up, I've noted you as well! :) Please note that I will only need a few - very few - testers for this, and especially players from Scandinavia have priority for obvious reasons... :)

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 12:23 
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How about including also the original T46 upon delivery in 1973? Here's an attempt at it;

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
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Nope, I haven't - but since you were kind enough to give me a hands up, I've noted you as well! :) Please note that I will only need a few - very few - testers for this, and especially players from Scandinavia have priority for obvious reasons... :)


Hej! I unterstand this. But in the Thirty-Year War, the Swedish even were in Southern Germany, where I live.

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
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Very quick progress SAC :bowing:

The original T46. I never knew there was a yellow one, always thought it was delivered brown (until now). Anyways I like it, good work.


As for the Yoa104, I think it will fit very well in the set when playing a game based around the available trains in the 50's & 60's. Which I will do for sure at some point since this set seems to be getting quite a few engines from that era!


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S-Transport wrote:
Hej! I unterstand this. But in the Thirty-Year War, the Swedish even were in Southern Germany, where I live.


:P

Yeah, those bastards...

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The original T46. I never knew there was a yellow one, always thought it was delivered brown (until now). Anyways I like it, good work.


I never even knew there was a original one until I started this set... I rarely travel upnorth, in fact, never... Can't stand winter at all...

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As for the Yoa104, I think it will fit very well in the set when playing a game based around the available trains in the 50's & 60's. Which I will do for sure at some point since this set seems to be getting quite a few engines from that era!


Actually, the Yoa104, later X20/X21/X22/X23 when in SJ's possession, were used as long as 2009 until taken out of service...

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
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Will you include those liveries too?
As I can see the X20 livery looks very cool:
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Hmm, hue is not correct in this picture, but that cream color would be fine for a 'fictional' livery. It gives a retro feeling:
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Me and SAC discussed the X20 white livery a few weeks back and considering she told me it was the ugliest livery ever I wouldn't count on it being included ;)

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:lol:

It does look ugly, at least on that X20 IMHO. If you didn't know already Athanasios, that white/blue livery is a design for a local transport authority, and not a livery widely used in Sweden. But I'll think about it... :P

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Added that it will be impossible to draw that tiny red line in normal zoom. It would need at least 2x to have a hint of it.


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It's so ugly, it's cute. :mrgreen:

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:lol:

I can almost agree...

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 Post subject: Re: INFRA Trains...
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Somewhat related to my previous post:

Zephyris started drawing 2x and 4x sprites in 8bpp for OpenGFX landscape (mostly upscaling via a script and not redraws, but manual pixel tweaking will be needed). Taking that into consideration, any plans here SAC? Of course regarding vehicles and buildings upscaling doesn't work. It will need endless hours of love and care.


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I really don't see the advantage - especially since it would require, (in my honest opinion), that everything on the TTDLX screen is drawn in a similar way.

Sure, it's great to be able to zoom in, but I mostly use this to detect errors in my graphics, but I prefer to play TTDLX using the original zooms...

In short, the amount of work needed doesn't justify the actual advantage as far as I see it...

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...but I mostly use this to detect errors in my graphics,
or sprite allignment and other troubleshooting stuff ... but defintely not playable.

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or sprite allignment and other troubleshooting stuff ... but defintely not playable.


That too! Absolutely... :P

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[2x zoom]

But at least it looks good!

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This is original 2x zoom, as you´d see it in game.

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But at least it looks good!


Yeah, it sure does! Had also everything been drawn similarily... :P

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